Let God tell you who He is in the letter He wrote for you and youll find a love you cannot comprehend. Israel was the prodical.. judah is the elder son that was jealous of israel.. Study The prodigal son and the two houses of Israel. Yes, see my answer to your first question. Tithing is also commanded in the bible and we are to give because he loves us and give with a joyful heart. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). WebOur Mission. Great job adding a bit of levity! People that oppose things is due to beliefs, so I believe if you oppose the IFB church its because you dont believe what their teaching not because there bitter. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading , The KJV isnt the inspired word of God. Please read this article for more information: https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense [sic] of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be.. The list is quite helpful just in case one is wondering if theyre living through the motions or not though, but some things are definitely unbiblical to do whether youre IFB or not. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin.. Independent Fundamentalist Baptists are a creepy, Of course these cultural attachments border on the cultic, no doubt are legalistic, and hopefully will disappear eventually as the old guard depart their bondage in this life for Glory! I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. We didnt go, but they came back the next week. We believe the King James Bible to be inerrant. Apart from Him we can do nothing. What is the Southern Baptist Convention and what do Southern Baptists believe? Biblical Reform School Discipline: Tough Love or Abuse? 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Ill fight against the abusive traditions and teachings of the IFB till I die. No, Baptist churches are not sinless because they are filled with forgiven sinners. For you are like whitewashed tombsbeautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead peoples bones and all sorts of impurity. The IFB is the one who is hurting the cause of Christ, just like the Pharisees did. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Youre supposed to read the word daily, it says give us this day our daily bread. If you believe that all Catholics are going to hell, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 35. Im truly sorry for those who were mistreated and sorry if bitterness is hurting you now. If your your church funnels in the inner city kids via a bus ministry We dont have a bus ministry since the city of the church I go to is small. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. Its the inspired word of God. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. Pastor Wilkerson was the one and ONLY pastor who allowed me to work passionately in what ever church ministry I chosen. Even though I dont believe the churchs teachings anymore, Im very grateful for the care and support I received from the Baptists growing up. The church never knew our problems but god did. At one point in my life I would have agreed with 45 of your 55 litmus tests, plus a few others. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? I survived the Christian fundamentalist world - Baptist News If that doesnt raise red flags for you I dont know what will. (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:l-8; Hebrews 13:4), We believe that human life begins at conception and that the unborn child is a living human being. You might be an independent Fundamental Baptist if. And if a lost person were to stumble upon this page and read your list and how you respond to any differing opinions, would you be helping plant a seed? If a child is behaving like a child (i.e., appropriate for his/her age), but you think they are being misbehaving and rebellious, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 40. It was fun to read down through comments and feel a little gratified that not everyone was chuckling to themselves againwhy?? I prefer Kjv! While God hates divorce, but we should help those who are divorce so they can grow spiritually. LOL. In the last days, you will get churches like you have described in your initial post, but not all of them are the same. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). Here are my concerns about the beliefs since I am not Independent Baptist, Southern Baptist, or part of any Baptist affiliation: I had my part. Mind your own business. Believers in a free society should influence government toward righteousness, but should not make an unholy alliance for control, influence, or favors. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Wow. We believe that , lesbianism, bisexuality, bestiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography are perversions of God's intended purposes and therefore, sin. Does the lord convict me when I miss? We wanted Gods blessing of Mariage. We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. Tithing was around since before the Law of Moses. Hypocrites! In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. You ALWAYS have your KJV Bible with you at church, and turn to numerous verses each sermon. Assemble Anywhere KJV Churches She told her son Kenneth, who was 16, he had to start attending the academy and the church with her. I sought counciling to see if there was anything in the Bible that could give Hope to our relationship. Its about Jesus. I can tolerate the other bits that go over board as long I am believing the word and get correct non compromising bible teaching. Why do people think that I dont have time to pray for loved ones simply because I have this site up? I dont deserve Gods forgiveness or even my husbands forgiveness. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway. Ive known many people whom God has reached using the IFB. We are happily married today blessed with 2 more children. IFB church members know how to laugh and have fun. Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. I hope you found some church that preaches the truth (even though they may differ on some things with me). 3 And why worry about a speck in your friends eye when you have a log in your own? I think I find it more funny how you all think it IS funny and Im just over here secretly judging your jeans ;b, But, all teasing aside, the author and other commentators sound very bitter. you DVR the Superbowl (or watch sport center on your phone in the vestibule) because you cant miss church. The lost in the world watch us Christians closer than we know. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden. Believing its a sin is one thing, believing its an unforgivable sin is another. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. BTW, tithing isnt a Biblical teaching for NT Christians. The Lord's Supper, or Communion, commemorates Christ's broken body and shed blood giving each believer an opportunity for self-examination and rededication. If you believe that you will be rewarded or punished according to whether or not youve tithed faithfully, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 47. Out of over 30 , maybe 5 in 25 years hypocrite. You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if 50. I wish you had broken up your last paragraph into multiple paragraph everything runs together. Independent Baptist - Wikipedia Romans 5:8 is about salvation. They were not Ignorant Fungicidal Blaptists. Praise the lord God made salvation a gift, or I probably wouldnt have received it. If you are really interested in finding out about my poor experiences with the IFB please read the website rather than make assumptions. We believe that the ecumenical movement is a demonic attempt to unite all Christian denominations around experience to the disregard of biblical doctrine. If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. I had a free apartment, food stamps, government phone, and a $60.. utility check every month. If you believe that someone who smokes, drinks, parties, dances, listens to secular music, listens to Christian contemporary music, etc. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. The churches that teach certain things unrelated to scripture, are a result of what the Bible calls IN THE LAST DAYS. In the last days, people will leave their first love, just as you have left YOUR first love, probably because of a pastor, an arrogant church member, or maybe because of your very own relationship with God, a relationship that is lacking. For they dont practice what they teach. You wont go in yourselves, and you dont let others enter either. Belief number 51 is absolutely wrong. G.F.F. 41. Years ago, I heard a very funny but truthful skit on what was or wasnt OK. Each verse ended with, Its OK, because Independent Fundamental Baptist Preachers do it.. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, became man, without ceasing to be God, having been conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, in order that He might reveal God and redeem sinful men (John 1:1-2, 14; Luke 1:35; Isaiah 9:6; 7:14; Philippians 2:5-8; Galatians 4:4-5). I can use scripture to instruct me how to forgive others and God told me that it is profitable. If you stay, Im almost certain youll end up regretting it. I have to admit its a lot less work than actually thinking through things. Basically he was just marketing for his college. I wanted to go to church but was not able to. The two are completely unrelated. We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. Only thing Ill add to the list is, You might be an IFB if you greet all visitors with huge smiles, handshakes, and extreme cheerfulness. I feel sorry for all the visitors we almost accosted now; no wonder some never came back! Yes, I remember that. People can ask for clarification if they want. I hope whatever poor experience you had hasnt taken you away from the faith. Independent Baptist - RationalWiki I like door knocking is any of our church compelled to do so? 27 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Everyone has sent in their life. Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. Attending all three, in my opinion, is optional.