For me, bc Maura was someone I loved, I tend to think of the positive and happy times. Did I read this correctly? Maura had allegedly been engaged to U.S. Army Lieutenant Bill Rausch at the same time she was dating Hossein Baghdadi, the assistant coach of the UMass track team. I mean, Bill could have actually killed this latest victim and it wouldn't change whether or not he murdered Maura. He said that he could not see the womans car from his house, but he did see other cars passing by on the road. In the days following Mauras disappearance everyone who the police asked to speak with talked with them and shared what they knew. It was 2004. re Butch Atwood, again I do not want to comment on him despite having met and spoken with him in 2004. The shop wasnt that big. I dont recall walking the entire distance on 116 you ref Altho we drove it numerous times and also searched some of it on foot. I believe Bill Rausch was in town to retrieve his gifts to Maura by the time her first accident occurred, which I theorize he caused both of them. Bill's lawyer asked for the sex tape to be viewed in court? I bought my 1999 Saab 9-3 in 2002, not far from UMASS. Some believe it was packed up. But the next morning, on February 9, 2004, everything changed. Hacking was not as prevalent as it is today (assuming the was someone in her life that could hack into financial institutions). My parents picked me up at the airport after driving there from Ohio and the three of us drove north to Haverhill, NH to see Fred/LE and check into the hotel. I still dont know what happened, just like most of you. I received the VM at the airport on Wed morning while going thru security. Maura Murray crashed into a ditch and was never seen again JakubD/Shutterstock My hope is to speak candidly about who Maura was as a person vs this character shes been made into by people on the internet. 100%. But she didnt reserve a room. The Police should have spoken with Julie, but they didnt. I love the idea of reconsidering it. I agree that everyone seems to be at a loss for why she left UMASS. Being 1,000 miles away when she disappeared, for one. Maura was an above average athlete. An Army spokesman writes in an emailed statement that they are aware of the indictment and will continue to review the information related to this case as it becomes available. The spokesman declined to comment further. Though some have stuck to the suicide or accidental death theories, others think that she was abducted. The child looks between 11-14 yrs old, could Maura have been pregnant at the time of. Fred knew the area better than us (my folks are from Ohio, the McDonalds lived near USMA) of course, everyone in the Murray fam knew it better than us as well. And if he did indeed know this, and no one else knows this, then at the very least, Bill know something that nobody else knows. MAURA MURRAY - BILL RAUSCH AND THE FBI (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST CLIPS)What are the Bill Rausch and FBI connections in relation to the Maura Murray case?. IMO they made numerous mistakes, esp in the early days. Merry Christmas Jay . There is no third phone. Thank you again for asking. Re Maura leaving West Point thats something Ill be taking a deep dive into given thats how we met and I can provide personal and professional insight into the situation. I consider all of those individuals to be extremely honorable and respectful people who knew and loved Maura dearly. We learned of the three men at the party after Maura disappeared. And after Murray vanished in Haverhill that evening, she was never seen again. Nearly two decades after her disappearance, Maura Murray remains missing to this day. I know I played it for them on speaker several times at the station. MAURA MURRAY - BILL RAUSCH: THE LOST INTERVIEWLISTEN to the FULL PODCAST here -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOoM-c_92i4LISTEN to the FULL SERIES here -htt. Public DomainMaura Murrays mugshot, which was taken after she was arrested for credit card fraud. It was her home away from home. Although Murray disappeared 15 years ago, law enforcement officials in New Hampshire are still investigating. Murray emailed her professors to say that she would be taking a week off due to a death in the family. Fred Murray, and her boyfriend, Bill Rausch . She was about as badass as you might imagine, altho always smiling while crushing whatever she was doing. She would be happy and so would her family. I want to focus on Maura tho and avoid the drama. Then, she says, he grabbed her shoulders, turned her around, and forced her head down into the conference table. Im unsure if folks here understand how bold and independent she was. And there were no footprints found in the snow leading to the woods, meaning that she wouldve had to escape on the road, likely moving east of the accident scene (since that area was not inspected during the first search). By that time, another coworker had walked into the office and was searching for Pattison, calling out her name. If she wore them enough for a K-9 to pick up her scent, I cannot say as Im not an expert on that topic. Those 4,000 foot hikes, NYE parties with her friends there, and the list goes on. ~ Gambling. IMO the note NHSP refer to is prob the email. Maura Murrays boyfriend Bill Rausch has been accused of sexual misconduct against other women. Thats their choice and its my choice too. We can also see a very volatile, hostile, narcissistic individual. NH has not released her phone records to anyone with or without redactions. I organized Bills comments into the following categories: On Maura as a person (there is a more in depth section about this but I wanted to start with this). She def shouldnt have been driving the Saturn but am I surprised she did? Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Its clear to me that she wasnt running away and the evidence in her car, her emails, her letters, phone calls, etc all point to her returning to school. However, radiocarbon dating in November revealed that the remains were far older than Murray. Have you heard the story of her winning a free throw competition at Boston Garden? journalism. Maura Murray Missing/MySpace Maura Murray's boyfriend Bill Rausch has been accused of sexual misconduct against other women. Maura and I last saw each other over Christmas break, correct. Maura Murray Public Figure/FacebookSecurity footage of Maura Murray withdrawing cash on the day that she went missing. I took the police at their word. There was an error and we couldn't process your subscription. we drove and/or walked every road, trail and wooded area in vicinity of her accident to include 116. Fit After 50 Reviews (Critical Warning!) In hindsight, given shortcomings in their investigation, I regret not trusting but verifying what they said. It was unseasonably warm, Pattison remembers, so they left their jackets in the office. It was our understanding at the time that a formal offer was made by the FBI and refused by local law enforcement. bc after graduating I would be moving somewhere outside the NY tri-state area. It took a bit of time, maybe 10-20min altho I should say it felt like forever like most drives to a specific location. I truly don't see how any rational person could read this stuff and still argue that Bill should not be considered a prime suspect in the disappearance of Maura. The dispatcher thanked her for calling and sent out an officer. To confirm your assumption, she was familiar with North Conway. Many people talk about what are the chances when discussing this case. Though many of her loved ones believed that Murray had simply intended to get away from all the drama for just a few days, there were some signs that she intended her disappearance to be a permanent one. That said, I recall vividly going thru security at OKC and then listening to the VM there. Privacy Policy Both are amazing talents, extremely assertive, and quiet! Young & Hungry Readers like you keep our work free for everyone to read. Probable Cause Affidavit in Bryan Kogbergers case (MoscowMurders). General facts and characteristics about Maura. to be clear I do not know if Maura packed up her room or never unpacked. That said, we obvi didnt search far or fast enough. I dont recall how they took it into evidence. Bill was Mauras boyfriend when she went missing in February 2004 and has been sharing his recollections of Maura, her disappearance, and the subsequent search. Events, Football Maura placed great value on kindness in others. I specifically remember her talking with my cousins son about baseball for ages and recall my other cousin ragging on me for how badly Maura would prob beat me in basketball one-on-one (he was a great player as well). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. To be clear, any violation of the Honor Code warrants separation; however, the process and factors Clint describes strongly supports the fact that Maura would have remained at West Point had she wanted to. Pls check that bc Im going off memory here, not my notes or google maps! Then Maura would go out and smoke the competition. Much like Maura Murrays mugshot, this image has been widely described as unsettling. On the jacket Maura was wearing in the ATM video, On the backpack/duffel bag (this is the pic of Kathleen at the motel). Theater Prob not high and yet it happened to me. A nursing student at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst, she had left campus earlier that day without telling anyone that she was going to New Hampshire. From HS to college, USMA to UMass, etc. Her hero? Murrays father Fred traveled to Amherst on February 7, 2004. Every theory has holes in it and a big missing puzzle piece billy should be at the top of the list for the most invested on solving this case. I cant speak to if or why she did or didnt try to drive the Saturn after the accident. Maura was one of the loveliest, brilliant, and badass girls you could ever know. Maura and Bill Rausch. Soccer Three people who Pattison told about the attack soon afterward have confirmed her account to City Paper. (LogOut/ Always. Its a big bridge from incompetence to being involved. In Mauras case the theft took place ~13 mo under the code and stealing makeup would be considered a minor infraction. Not calling her dorm room like he always has done is especially telling. Maura and I communicated via AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), and she also used AIM to communicate with HS friends. She was one of a kind. Assuming that Murray did not kill herself and did not succumb to the elements while in hiding, where would she have gone? If I get off course, you can set me straight. Bottom line, there isnt as much secrecy as you suggest. Though Murray was unharmed, the car was seriously damaged. I believe Im the only one on reddit that was in her dorm room and I do not know if Maura packed it up or if she never unpacked it. And was this the first time he tried to call Maura while he was out east. Bill was determined to have stalked his ex-girlfriend. Then wed talk about the next day, come up with a plan, talk about Maura and do our best to smile and laugh thinking of her and how lovely she was hoping she was okay and determined to find her. For all the talk of theories, the idea that someone with good intentions giving her a ride somewhere has fallen by the way side. A review of his phone records revealed a 3 minute call to Maura's cell phone the Saturday after the disappearance, when he was in New Hampshire as part of the search. Perhaps bc Maura and I stayed there in the past or maybe looking for a hotel before everyone decided to stay at wells river. I realize that Maura had morphed into a fictional character that did not accurately reflect who she was as a person. Pattison was 22 at the time, working her first job out of college, and Rausch was a superior. It was a typical gas station, right off the exit. Personal feelings aside, some of the items that Murray had packed in her car such as birth control pills, tooth whitener, and college textbooks have led many to believe that she was not intending to die that day. West Point consistently ranks as one of the top public universities in the nation, has a top 5 engineering program (Maura was majoring in Chemical Engineering), and outranks many ivy league universities in certain academic areas. Not only was it a place with fond childhood memories it was a place that remained a key part of her life. Our initial assumption was that it was packed up. Maura Murray had four siblings Fred Jr., Kathleen, Julie, and Kurtis and she was often described as an overachiever from a young age. We never found ourselves in a situation that we couldnt handle physically. Freelancers Guide But why was he so manic? One correction, Kate was a Senior and Maura was a Junior. I totally get why folks do that but look at it from my perspective. Raised in Hanson, Massachusetts, Maura was a student at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst, some 150 miles from the crash site in the New Hampshire village of Woodsville. In this instance, there is an actual person who drove me to the OKC airport. Of course, we know that she did not. Work Here Seems something specifically happened to set him off to make him call her incessantly like that, and also something that would make Maura ignore every one of his calls. The nearby woods mightve hypothetically been a good place to hide out if the weather had been warm, but it was rather cold outside. Maura was missing. Given that no one spoke on the VM it was impossible to say it sounded like her or anyone else. Atop one of the boxes was a printed email to her boyfriend, which detailed problems in their relationship. He wasnt married. She was a #badass. Im sure they have their reasons (some good some not so good maybe), but its regrettable they havent released more. All evidence, to include my phone records, validates this fact. Someone broke her fall, and she says she looked up and saw Rausch turning the corner at the top. Give the man something for goodness sake. She would literally jump from a tree top into the Saco river one day, and the next day be the most radiant woman at any formal event. I owned it until 2009 when I traded it in on a new car. Remembering Maura on her 38th Birthday. Then, learn about the first missing child to be put on a milk carton. While Im certain I left from OKC (something that is confirmed by the person who drove me) and arrived in CT (something my parents can confirm as they picked me up), maybe folks here can determine where the lay over was? Shot at Three People in February, Finding Jackie Reveals Little About the Former First Lady, D.C. Police Officers Convicted in Karon Hylton-Browns Death Ask Judge to Throw Out Jurys Verdict, Grant a New Trial. During our time together over the holidays we had a really lovely time together. Mumble Sauce, About Us Contact Us FYSA: We searched Jigger Johnson and found no evidence Maura or anyone else was or had been there. While the conditions could have been different prior to our arrival, the fact remains that none of our footprints were masked over in the way you describe for many days. I read an old letter the other day where she starts it off, I think Im back in my phish phase!, She loved twizzlers and fire balls! When we would stop one day and return the next we could see where we searched/walked the day(s) before. From what Ive read, many people are puzzled by the short time frame she disappeared in youre def not alone. By that point, she had also used the internet to look up directions to Burlington, Vermont. Or there could be a note they didnt tell me about this seems unlikely as they shared everything else with us. One thing has struck me, which is that Maura was evidently intending to pay cash for whatever she was doing in NH, including whatever fuel she bought not long before the crash. Apologies if this isnt relevant, but every time I see FBI and Mauras name in the same sentence I think back to right after the accident and our efforts to get the FBI involved being actively rejected and its still disappointing to this day. The victim reported the alleged attack to police after her assailants name appeared in unfounded theories in an unrelated cold case. She was a nursing student completing her junior year at the University of Massachusetts Amherst at the time of her disappearance. Heck, one big reason (there were many) the McDonalds came up to help was bc we wanted more boots on the ground to intensify our search. I remember us doing over that area over and over and over again on foot. She had several fav spots and her father/siblings prob know more than I do. Late on Sunday,. Washington. Heck, 33rd in the country in the 2mi as a Sophomore is a HUGE deal. As she did not appear to be injured, Atwood left Murray with her car and went home to call the police on his landline. Please reload the page and try again. Terms & Conditions So, while I was surprised she left school without telling anyone it wasnt unbelievable to me if that makes sense? They helped with the search. I'm absolutely convinced that he knew she was leaving campus for a couple days. She went on hour long runs by herself. Eventually, a state trooper showed up, followed by firefighters and an emergency medical service. Museums/Galleries She would literally jump from a tree top into the Saco river one day (thats a great story btw), and the next day be the most radiant woman at any formal event. Born on May 4, 1982, in Brockton, Massachusetts, Maura Murray was raised in the nearby town of Hanson. This is a good example, bc I remember being at the house in Hanson and her going through old photos and seeing one similar (maybe the same one?) After that we contacted a family friend at the FBI in the midwest who contacted his counterpart in NE, which generated an offer from the FBI to NHSP for assistance. Considering the amount of alcohol found at the scene and the Coke bottle that was likely filled with alcohol authorities believed that Murray had been drinking and didnt want to risk jeopardizing her record of good behavior after her credit card fraud arrest. Change). I received the VM while going through airport security at the Roy Rogers airport in OKC, the morning of Feb 11.. After an initial search of the area, authorities learned that the missing woman was a 21-year-old named Maura Murray. I talked to them about anything and everything that we/they could think of to try and help. The thought was that bc the dog scent went east from the car and the police told us she was heading east. When her supervisor tried to find out what was wrong, all Murray could say was this: My sister. This was just four days before Murray vanished. The Mysterious Disappearance Of Maura Murray, The Nursing Student Who Vanished Without A Trace. Still, Atwood called the police anyway once he arrived home about 100 yards away from the accident. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9yh305/can_we_talk_about_maura_murray_and_her_boyfriend/. Not nearly as lovely as her but the best I could afford back then! His and Maura's cell phone records are telling. When reading the details JR has presented Im still shocked but sadly not surprised its definitely a case of reading between the lines here , we have never heard anything official about Billys alibi or clearance on this case. Theres nothing more powerful than Mauras written word (I have loads of letters from Maura that show how amazing Fred was as a father), and I witnessed how remarkable he was first hand. Security footage of Maura Murray withdrawing cash on the day that she went missing. It happened to Maura. Bill was in a manic, out of control state, on Feb 9th 2004, prior to Maura being considered missing by her family. The youngest daughter of Fred and Laurie Murray, she saw her parents separate when she was just six years old. Logistically you start in the center and work your way out. My whereabouts while in Haverhill have been confirmed by LE, Fred Murray, Rob and Christine McDonald, my parents and others. Obviously, reality is and was somewhere in between for Maura like it is for most folks. Page Three I think I talked about that in the ID discovery episode. Bottom line: she was not kicked out and most likely would not have been had she wanted to stay. Into VT (it was v close) and over to ME. He reported that the driver was a young woman who appeared to be shaken up, but unharmed. Or maybe he found out she wanted to run away from him and set some other plan in motion, perhaps along with some other friends who've remained silent over all these years. After a drink or two at a bar near the White House, the group returned to the office to retrieve their coats. I never stayed in my barracks/dorm at West Point when my folks visited. For years I continued to believe it was her. My mother might remember, but unfortunately I do not. The disappearance of Maura Murray occurred on the evening of February 9, 2004. MAURA MURRAY - BILL RAUSH: EMERGENCY LEAVE OR NOT (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST CLIPS) - YouTube 0:00 / 1:05:50 MAURA MURRAY - BILL RAUSH: EMERGENCY LEAVE OR NOT (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME. Post on some sites not others. I arrived in NH on Feb 11, 2004 and helped search for Maura along side the Murrays, my parents, and Mauras friends. On whether she was drinking and driving (and re HB). The stretch of 112 was more isolated which is why it stuck out. Aside from being upset over the accident, Murray reportedly seemed fine when her father took her back to her dorm later that day. In the same vein I dont see how it humanizes Maura to say that she and Kate had an orgy with respectable business men which was said by a common poster on this sub. Three months before her disappearance, Maura Murray was arrested for using a stolen credit card number. I think there was an intersection a bit before you got to 116 but other than that there were no roads from that immediate right after the Saturn until 116. She was as bubbly and brilliant as they come. And Bill "would also refer to [the victim] during sex as Maura, the name of his ex-girlfriend who went missing in 2004. There is a TON of hard evidence that shows they totally dropped the ball in taking Mauras disappearance seriously and it seems that trend has continued which is really disappointing. He asked her if she remembered the day she came into the office after having been pushed down the Metro escalator at McPherson Square. The 911 calls from Westman and Atwood, the two locals who reported the car accident, were placed at 7:27 p.m. and 7:42 p.m., respectively. Looking back, I dont know if it was Maura, altho I believed it to be at the time. The evening of the 11th we met Fred and LE at the police station where we received an update from LE. I already wanted the plane to fly faster than it ever had before and this made that feeling even stronger. She loved it there and I loved being there with her. People have long theorized that Maura Murray's disappearance may have been a crime of opportunity caused by a fluke encounter with someone after she had a car accident in rural New Hampshire. It's been called the "the first crime mystery of the social media age" due to Facebook's launch 5 days before she went missing. In mid July I collected and organized his answers. Any bank account associated with her has remained dormant. She was accepted into West Point, though she ended up transferring to the University of Massachusetts in Amherst to study nursing. (Her relatives later said there was no death.) Murray called the owner of a condo in Bartlett, New Hampshire, where she had stayed before with family. I do not recall skulking any. For others, it seems they get fixated on her troubles. They are also champions who overcame adversity. What was going through my mind? [On Bradley Hill] We hit all of that road as well. Im familiar with the type of conditions you describe from growing up with winters in Ohio and my time at West Point. The officer continued, In plain sight behind the drivers seat of the vehicle I could see a box of Franzia wine. Maura Murray was a strong student and track athlete before her disappearance. I believe we know nothing about her Sunday because it's critical to this case. We communicated daily and the only time I realized she was upset was after she called me not long after having an accident in her dads car. I do not recall combining a trip/stay at UMass with a trip to NH. I am sure that this man has bamboozled a great number of people, including his own mother, into standing behind him. The Discovery ID episode does a good job of providing details re when I received the VM, and what I thought of it at the time using my own words. We don't have one. Maura was missing. (commenting on a picture posted) I remember how much everyone adored her from the moment they met her for the first time. To be clear, we were able to see our own footprints in the snow from the search for days after going over a period of ground. Almost 20 years later, Murray's case has turned cold, and her disappearance continues to be a mystery. District Line Daily: Our news, politics, arts, food, and sports coverage in one email every weekday. This never fucking happened, she remembers him saying. Yes, I believed it was Maura. There was a broad passion she had for hiking that included a goal of hiking all the 4,000 ft mountains in NH. I met Butch but frankly have nothing negative to say about him given theres no evidence to suggest hes responsible. Who knows. I did discuss the email with LE while answering their questions about the topic of the email. Please bear in mind that he is answering questions asked. It is clear that he builds up soldiers around him, as narcissists do, people who will believe in him, that need to protect their self image, is very important to a narcissist. The female Metropolitan Police Department officers first response back then, according to Pattison, was Why didnt you report this last night?, It took a long time for me to call myself a victim or to associate with the word victim, and going to the police again symbolized that, she tells City Paper. I did go into her dorm room during the search. "Here's the warrant for Bill Rausch's arrest on felony sex abuse charges. Its possible. He calls all her UMass acquaintances, their dorm rooms and their cell phones. Why would they call it a note and not an email? Hes also not around to defend himself. I find it interesting that so many people are attached to theories, On the police investigation and release of records. The VT sighting could have been significant, and LE were aware. While its possible she was going to meet someone, theres no evidence to suggest she was. Bill Rausch' 3 Minute Call to Maura Murray the Saturday after her disappearance. What disappoints me most about this community is the misinfo about Maura. Perhaps this is due to some bump in the road between him and Maura's relationship, and that is the way he would react normally. Dr. . This is a fact. That said, special thanks to you and to Erinn for submitting those requests. Rausch, who is currently deployed in Africa, has been a prominent advocate for veterans, including as the former executive director of Got Your 6, a nonprofit that empowers those who previously. She was never seen again. Maura's mom, Laurie Murray, and Billy's mother, Sharon Rausch, later told the Massachusetts Daily Collegian, the university paper, that the couple had had problems back in 2002 but patched things . While I'm unsure exactly who believes Maura's disappearance was a DUI walk away, that theory was far from my mind after speaking with Fred the evening of February 10th. I dont know and I wouldnt say thats an attack on her. I dont recall the airline or the layover city off the top of my head. Beer I dont think its likely but anything is possible and everyone/everything should be looked at as Julie has said. Police also believed that Murray may have been trying to kill herself, and even put out a press release two days after she first went missing that she was possibly suicidal. Her father has denied this suggestion: She was in good spirits and had no worries or reason to run away from her life.. Liz at Large Fred is a rockstar. Long answer, I know. Quit making excuses for him, and Im not distracted by EL podcast or her objective to change the narrative.