1), mehr noch durch die erhaltenen Reden und Gegenreden für den Gesandtschaftsprozeß (Aeschin. Ï, 389-314 v.Chr. Would you agree/disagree with the notion that there is a connection between sexual, financial, and political patterns of behavior, as Aeschines (author of the speech) would seem to want us to think? Aeschines: Against Timarchos Introduction, translation, and commentary by Nick Fisher. 8? Cambridge, Mass., 1989. 2, Oberlieferung 343ff - Textgestaltung 345ff - Autor-schaft 350ff Aristoteles, Poetik, Begriff der gid-tot; und KaOapotc 279ff Asinius Pollio, Adressat von Verg. Die Hauptquelle für die Steuer ist eine Gerichtsrede des Aischines gegen Timarchos, in der Aischines das Gericht davon zu überzeugen versucht, dass Timarchos sich in seiner Jugend prostituierte. An icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Better known as the "Areopagus Council," a highly repsected body consisting of former holders of high office. Aeschines. The procedure is an "examination as to fitness to participate in public life," the dokimasia rhetoron. Auch Aischines verleiht dem Ausdruck, wenn er die Lasterhaftigkeit des Timarchos als eine Folgekette schildert, die "zuerst von den eigenen körperlichen Gaben, dann denen der Vorfahren und schließlich von der Stadt selbst zehrten" (294). It had judicial functions but almost no political ones. Judging by this speech, did classical Athenians regard it as perfectly
As regards the sexual side, what the dokimasia addressed was not being or having been a prostitute; it was being a prostitute or former prostitute yet still exercising full male-citizen rights. The case was brought about in 346/5, in response to Timarchus, along with Demosthenes, bringing a suit against Aeschines, accusing him of misconduct as an ambassador to Philip II of Macedon. constructionism", Speaker-writer-prosecutor: Aeschines son of Atrometus, 390/89-314 BCE, Athenian statesman and former actor, Defendant: one Timarchus son of Arizelus, evidently, an Athenian of some prominence, Outcome: Aeschines won. ... was fehlt.27 So gesehen zielen die Bemerkungen des Aristoteles darauf, die Frage nach der .... Aischines berichtet, dass Timarchos ⦠Page 37 - Unkeuschheit zu, wohl aber gegen den, der ihn verdungen hat und den, 4» der sich ihn gedungen hat, gegen den einen, weil er ihn verdungen, und gegen den andern, weil er, so sagt er, sich ihn gedungen hat. clearly intended as a tactical move: an attempt by Aeschines to discredit political enemies, not just Timarchus, but Demosthenes, too. 2, Dem. Senate. One Hundred Years of Homosexuality And Other Essays on Greek Love. Für die Verfahren gegen Timarchos (Aeschin. Scholarly work on this speech and related matters includes: Dover, K. J. Greek Homosexuality. 18) ist die Quellenlage außerordentlich gut. Auf dem Weg zur demokratischen Bürgergemeinde ..... Jh. Es steht ja nicht so, daß Homosexualität in allen Formen in Griechenland straffrei gewesen wäre; da kann man sich bei Aischines im Falle Athens eines Besseren belehren lassen. Relevante Textzeugen sind Lysias 24; Aeschines , Gegen Timarchos (1,103â4), [Aristoteles], Ath. 19) und den Kranzprozeß (Aeschin. 29 Im Folgenden soll somit detailliert überprüft werden, ob, und wenn ja wie zum einen der Vorwurf der Prostitution in dieser Quelle mit ⦠page: Note the general structure of the speech: exploration of the legal-moral dimension; a detailed and lurid account of Timarchus' supposedly infamous behavior; thorough exploration of the political and pederastic implications of it all, including a look at poetry and mythology; some pertinent autobiography from the speaker; arguments and counter arguments. The text of a statute can be presented to contrast the illegality of a proposed decree just as Aeschines did in 3 (Against Ktesiphon) 32-35, to ⦠Why or why not? ^ angef?hrten (? 2 ed. Aischines föddes i Aten omkring år 390 f.Kr. Aischines konnte diesen ProzeB aber furs erste durch eine gegen Timarchos erhobene Gegenklage St LpCap g, wegen Prosti-tution, verhindern. The speech has spawned considerable bibliography and remains a conerstone of the study of (male) sexuality in classical Greece. Majority vote decided the verdict. DefiniÈii, conjugÄri, declinÄri, paradigme pentru Timochi din dicÈionarele: Onomastic Interpretationem recudit et notas partim variorum partim suas adjecit ⦠Senate of the Areopagus. Is an active pederast like Aeschines gay by
Oxford 2001 : 45. Diese Rede enthält sehr interessante Informationen über die Halbwelt des alten Athen. What is problematic about conduct or patterns associated with
unproblematic for men to pursue boys and have sex with them? To pimp (or "pander") for a free (i.e., non-slave) boy or woman. Efter att som ung ha biträtt sin far vid undervisningen i en oansenlig skola ledd av denne, sökte han sig till teatern och uppträdde mot betalning som skådespelare, men efter en tid lämnade han teatern och började i stället som skrivare, först hos den ansedde statsmannen och ⦠Offices like generalships, they involved important decision-making functions. Aischines, Rede gegen Timarchos, Datierung 383ff Alexandria, Grundungslegende 291ff. [2] Along with the accusations of prostitution and squandering his inheritance for which Timarchus was on trial, the speech contains charges of "bribery, sycophancy, the buying of office, embezzlment, and perjury". or. Die von Aischines gegen Timarchos gehaltene Gerichtsrede 28 zeigt detailliert, wie schmal und zum Teil ebenfalls willkürlich die Grenzen zwischen Päderastie und Prostitution waren. [1] The speech provides evidence of a number of actions which, according to Aeschines, would cause a citizen to lose the right of addressing the Assembly. Whatever those connections/relationships, they may offer a window into classical Athenian sexual ideology. This is the first commentary in any language on Aeschines' Against Timarchos, the prosecution speech in the politically crucial trial of 346/5BC.The case was that Timarchos was forbidden to hold public office and disenfranchised because he had engaged in improper homosexual relationships in the past and had wasted his inheritance on debauchery. or. Die von Aischines gegen Timarchos gehaltene Gerichtsrede 28 zeigt detailliert, wie schmal und zum Teil ebenfalls willkürlich die Grenzen zwischen Päderastie und Prostitution waren. 72 H.Wankel Dativ, von dem noch ein Dativ der Beziehung abh?ngt) in dem oben wieder empfohlenen Textvorschlag Frankes eine erw?nschte Parallele. This is the first commentary in any language on Aeschines' Against Timarchos, the prosecution speech in the politically crucial trial of 346/5BC.The case was that Timarchos was forbidden to hold public office and disenfranchised because he had engaged in improper homosexual relationships in the past and had ⦠or. sowie Hansen 1995, 28f. What sort of evidence does this speech provide for ideologies of gender and/or sexuality in classical Athens? Against Timarchus (Greek: Κατὰ Τιμάρχου) was a speech by Aeschines accusing Timarchus of being unfit to involve himself in public life. very important concepts, also discussed on the terms
Aeschines alleges that
wurde nie ein pisidischer Krieg geführt, Hopp (1977), S. 70â74), das Kersley in der Ehrung für Sotas und dem dazugehörigen Königsbrief in Olbasa entziffert hat, haben jedoch unabhängig voneinander Gauthier Bull. Aeschines lost that case and left public life. Against Timarchus. or. Except that they involved election by lottery and little or no power. "Laying Down the Law: The Oversight of Men's Sexual Behavior in Classical Athens." focus disapproval on the. Aeschine's speech Against Timarchus of 346 BCE is one of the most valuable sources we have about Athenian attitudes to homosexuality. Clarendon Ancient History Series. Für den speziellen Fall der Homosexualität bin ich dem einmal nachgegangen und habe bei Aischines (Gegen Timarchos) über weibliche Homosexualität gefunden: nichts. The case was brought about in 346/5, in response to Timarchus, along with Demosthenes, bringing a suit against Aeschines, accusing him of misconduct as an ambassador to Philip II of Macedon. New York: Routledge, 1990. The procedure is an "examination as to fitness to participate
Pornikon telos (griechisch ΠοÏνικὸν ÏÎλοÏ) war im antiken Athen eine Steuer, die von Prostituierten beiderlei Geschlechts für ihre Dienstleistung geleistet werden musste.. between each of the disqualifications described in the. Aeschines Rede gegen Ktesiphon by Aeschines ( Book ) 1 edition published in 1878 in Greek, Ancient and held by ⦠What is Timarchus' "sexuality" alleged to be — if we can
Aeschines with an English translation by Charles Darwin Adams, Ph.D. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1919. 1997, 563 und ⦠Athen, Wiederherstellung der Demokratie ⦠Just FYI, Demosthenes eventually did try Aeschines for treason. / others' ideas on sexuality. is not of great interest to us except insofar as the speech is
Die erste Rede des Aischines ist ein besonders wichtiges Dokument zur gleichgeschlechtlichen Liebe unter Männern. Zu Aischinesâ Klage gegen Timarchos s. Harris 1995, 101â106; zur zitierten Textstelle vgl. Pornikon telos (griechisch ΠοÏνικὸν ÏÎλοÏ) war im antiken Athen eine Steuer, die von Prostituierten beiderlei Geschlechts für ihre Dienstleistung geleistet werden musste.. Es steht ja nicht so, daß Homosexualität in allen Formen in Griechenland straffrei gewesen wäre; da kann man sich bei Aischines im Falle Athens eines ⦠By way of revenge, Aeschines endeavoured ⦠He had an outstanding temperament, and absolutely loved everyone. Aeschines Rede gegen Timarchos : Griechisch und Deutsch. The present speech was delivered in 345 BCE at Athens. Get this from a library! Und er setzte für jeden von beiden gleiche Bußen fest, und daß für den zu seinem Alter gekommenen Knaben, der zur ⦠So this forms part of a jury trial, with prosecutor (Aeschines) and defendent (Timarchus — but it seems that Demosthenes spoke in Timarchus' behalf) delivering one (lengthy) speech each. New York and London: Routledge, 1990. Aeschines' successful prosecution against Timarchos of 346/5 BC is our best evidence for Athenian laws and moral attitudes concerning homosexuality, and for Athenians' moral expectations of their politicians. Biografi. (Macedonia was a kingdom threatening Greek city-states to its south.) or. servio 3 : To put one's self at the service of, labour for (countries, individuals, etc.) 63ff. in public life," the dokimasia rhetoron. Does this speech tend to confirm or challenge Foucault's / Halperin's
To hire out one's citizen son or legal ward for sex, or pay such a boy for sex. Contrast the modern court trial: motions, presentation of evidence, examination of witnesses, minimal speechifying. Purchase a copy of this text ⦠1), mehr noch durch die erhaltenen Reden und Gegenreden für den Gesandtschaftsprozeß (Aeschin. What about the speaker? Aeschines. Winkler, John J. Timo Dersch works as journalist, editor, and underwater photographer. In 339 BC, as one of the Athenian deputies (pylagorae) in the Amphictyonic Council, he made a speech which brought about the Fourth Sacred War. war es ja das Ziel seit Kleisthenes, jede Form ..... gegen Beamte Klage zu führen.133 Schon für Aischines (1, 4-5) war dieser. Aeschines Rede gegen Timarchos : Griechisch und Deutsch: Aeschinis socratici Dialogi tres graece et latine : ad quos accessit quarti latinum fragmentum: Against Timarchos: Aischinou ho kata KtÄsiphÅntos kai DÄmosthenous ho peri stephanou logos. or. Das heißt, dass er vor allem den passiven Teil in Beziehungen spielte. He was appointed satrap of Media in western Iran when Antiochus IV Epiphanes became king in 175 BC, and his brother Heracleides became minister of ⦠Non-elective offices. Politeia 49,4. Die Hauptquelle für die Steuer ist eine Gerichtsrede des Aischines gegen Timarchos, in der Aischines das Gericht davon zu überzeugen versucht, dass Timarchos ⦠b to devote oneself (to an occupation). Diese Rede enthält sehr interessante Informationen über die Halbwelt des alten Athen. 3 und Dem. Aeschines alleges that the defendant, Timarchus, has in the past engaged in a practice, self-prostitution, disqualifying him from speaking in the assembly. Anthologia Latina Sh. Timarchus? "Decrees" versus "laws." Aischines gelang es in einer Gegenklage mit der Rede Gegen Timarchos (1), die Richter davon zu überzeugen, dass sich dieser in seiner Jugend prostituiert hatte. Aeschines accuses Timarchus of two of these forbidden acts: prostituting himself, and wasting his inheritance. Elective offices. [5] Indeed, Hubbard observes that he does not even manage to produce a single witness who will testify that Timarchus had any sexual relationship with the men in question at all,[6] though in his speeches Aeschines says that Timarchus' affairs were well known to the jury. Sohn des Atrometos, Nach einer Tätigkeit als Redenschreiber und Schauspieler berühmter Redner und seit 346 Gegner des Demosthenes. Alexandre Mitchell untersucht die möglichen Hintergründe von grotesken, vormals von Ärzten als Fehlbildung fehlgedeuteten figürlichen Darstellungen aus der Zeit des Hellenismus (S. 182â196). They were not paid, however. Timo Weisschnur als Kampfpilot Lars Koch in "Terror" von Ferdinand von Schirach. Dass offenbar regelmäßige Überprüfungen der Anspruchsberechtigung durchgeführt wurden, erfahren wir aus einer Gerichtsrede (Aischines, Gegen Timarchos 104), wo berichtet wird, dass ein erblindeter alter Mann namens Arignotos seine Invalidenrente verlor, weil er bei einer solchen Überprüfung gefehlt hatte. Note that in ancient Athenian court trials, procedure consisted mostly of speeches delivered by plaintiff, defendant, and, at times, their supporters. ; zu Kritias s. Németh 2006, 25â39. See OLD s.v. Er behauptete, Timarchos sei infolge von in der Jugend begangener Prostitution nicht prozeBfahig, mithin eine von ihm miteingebrachte Klage unwirksam. ⦠subordinate one's actions (to any interest, demand etc.). disqualifying him from speaking in the assembly. Our principal source for this procedure and the underlying ideologies is Aeschines' Against Timarchus. Or is it a cultural construction? 18) ist die Quellenlage außerordentlich gut. "Laws" (nomoi) were passed by a special board of "legislators" (nomothetai) and meant to demarcate areas of just and unjust conduct, and with "permanent and general application" (online Brill's New Pauly s.v. Gegen die Datierung auf das Jahr Alpha des Attalos II. ecl. Print. This webpage is his portofolio focusing on scuba diving, and related outdoors destinations projects. . Bekker, Immanuel. This banner text can have markup.. web; books; video; audio; software; images; Toggle navigation (See especially dokimasia rhetoron, below.) Aeschines' powerful speeches include Against Timarchus, On the False Embassy, and Against Ctesiphon. Against Timarchus (Greek: ÎαÏá½° ΤιμάÏÏοÏ
) was a speech by Aeschines accusing Timarchus of being unfit to involve himself in public life. To enter public life after having hired himself out for sex. A Clarendon Press Publication. B. Would conduct like that have come across as "gay" in
the defendant, Timarchus, has in the past engaged in a practice, self-prostitution,
The prosecution of Timarchus therefore stands as a preemptive attack against opponents. (unter der Herrschaft des Attalos III. 19) und den Kranzprozeß (Aeschin. Page 37 - Unkeuschheit zu, wohl aber gegen den, der ihn verdungen hat und den, 4» der sich ihn gedungen hat, gegen den einen, weil er ihn verdungen, und gegen den andern, weil er, so sagt er, sich ihn gedungen hat. Halperin, David M. "The Democratic Body: Prostitution and Citizenship in Classical Athens." Welturaufführung am Deutschen Theater Berlin ⦠A Greek nobleman, possibly from Miletus in Asia Minor, Timarchus was a friend of the Seleucid prince Antiochus IV Epiphanes during his time as a hostage to the Roman Republic. [Aischines; Gustav Eduard Benseler] University of Chicago. Why does Aeschines even have to go into his own autobiography? That's the translators way of rendering what we usually call the "Council of 500" (boulē), a democratic body (membership representative but election was by lottery — basically, random). or. Aeschines Rede gegen Timarchos : Griechisch und Deutsch: Aeschinis socratici Dialogi tres graece et latine : ad quos accessit quarti latinum fragmentum: Against Timarchos: Aischinou ho kata KtÄsiphÅntos kai DÄmosthenous ho peri stephanou logos. Vlber die von ⦠45-70. http://perseus.uchicago.edu/perseus-cgi/citequery3.pl?dbname=GreekFeb2011&getid=1&query=Aeschin.%201, "functional
The Annenberg CPB/Project provided support for entering this text. zitiert habe, "etwa wie Aischines solche gegen Timarchos citiert", d.h. die oben zu auTy Ty Tip?pxy ? Thus the Against Timarchus is a rich source for the connections between political and sexual (#4, above) ideology. 7 October (2013). Aeschines, a member of the pro-Macedonian faction at Athens, faced prosecution by a team of anti-Macedonians including the statesman and orator Demosthenes. Print. Timarchos wird vorgeworfen, sich in jungen Jahren prostituiert zu haben. psephi sma). The Annenberg CPB/Project provided support for entering this text. The dokimasia rhetoron, in Greek, "scrutiny of public speakers," was a legal process (a jury trial) in classical-democratic Athens, whereby a citizen's fitness to address the assembly could be challenged. The (rather large) jury would then vote. status) ; Fisher, N. -Aeschines Against Timarchos. Why or why not? even think or speak in terms of sexuality in relation to this speech? An icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Note that in your text, laws, depositions, and similar, indicated by squre brackets, are later additions; they were not part of Aeschines' published text of the speech. Drei Reden sind erhalten: Gegen Timarchos, Über die Truggesandtschaft, Gegen Ktesiphon.12 Briefe sind unecht. modern standards? Für die Verfahren gegen Timarchos (Aeschin. 4 : to act in subservience. auch Fisher 2001, 319f. Aischines gelang es in einer Gegenklage mit der Rede Gegen Timarchos (1), die Richter davon zu überzeugen, dass sich dieser in seiner Jugend prostituiert hatte. Buy Access; Help; About; Contact Us; Cookies; Encyclopedias | Text editions The nine archonships, officially, the surpreme offices of the state. Though much discussed in recent years, the speech has never received a proper commentary. frg. Aeschines Rede gegen Timarchos : Griechisch und Deutsch Antiphontis orationes et fragmenta, adjunctis Gorgiae, Autisthenis, Alcidamantis quae feruntur declamationes. 88-112. Aeschines. 2, Dem. Zuletzt wird auch Demosthenes als Verführer junger Männer ⦠Later, Aeschines would try another supporter of Demosthenes. or. As a result, Timarchus suffered, The connection, if any (but the speech seems to suggest there must have been one) between classical Athenian, The relationship (if any!) â Als weiteres Beispiel sei verwiesen auf ein Fragment aus Hypereidesâ Rede Gegen Autokles aus der Zeit um 360 (Hyp. [7] Aeschines won the case and Timarchus was punished by disenfranchisement. As for prostitition itself, while it was OK in classical Athens for non-citizens or slaves to be so employed, it was not OK for a citizen male: While the case has to do with conduct specifically dealt with by the dokimasia, there is related legislation mentioned in Aeschines' text to sketch out the moral-legal framework, for instance, laws to protect boys from predatory teachers, laws to protect freeborn boys from being prostituted, against "outrageous acts" against boys, and other measures (not the dokimasia) having to do with political disqualifications entailed by one's having been a prostitute. Failed to do one's duty in military service. Aeschines' successful prosecution against Timarchos of 346/5 BC is our best evidence for Athenian laws and moral attitudes concerning homosexuality, and for Athenians' moral expectations of their politicians. One could, in other words, suffer a penalty if (a) one spoke at meetings of the assembly (the main political body), and (b) had ever done one or more of the following: Returing to the dokimasia, if found "guilty," i.e., if found to have addressed the assembly despite the above-listed disqualifications, the defendant would have suffered loss of citizen rights (atimia, "disfranchisement"), as in fact happened to Timarchus. Die Scholien zu des Aeschines Reden gegen den Timarchos und über die Gesandtschaft, berichtigt und vervollständigt Ihr Browser zeigt an, ob sie diesen Verweis schon einmal besucht haben. In addition to the procedure of dokimsia rhetoron, this speech involves other,
157). Does that apply to our times as much as to any other time or place? Unlike Plato, whose views were highly distinctive and not necessarily shared by his fellow Athenians, Aeschines was appealing directly to the members of an Athenian jury, and so it ⦠or. Für den speziellen Fall der Homosexualität bin ich dem einmal nachgegangen und habe bei Aischines (Gegen Timarchos) über weibliche Homosexualität gefunden: nichts. 3 und Dem. Did they
Aeschines replied in a speech with the same title and was again acquitted. or. "Decrees" (psēphismata) at this time (345 BCE) were assembly resolutions often of limited scope or for a specific issue. Because a law-court speech, one intended to persuade a jury representing a cross-section of Athenians, Aeschines' Against Timarchus is generally regarded as evidence for classical Athenian attitudes to matters it treats. Aeschines won acquittal, though just barely. So this forms part of a jury trial, with prosecutor (Aeschines) and defendent (Timarchus â but it seems that Demosthenes spoke in Timarchus' behalf⦠Edidit Fridericus Blass. The political background
Timbo vom Kirschental, was a herding dog, certified Therapy Dog. [8], https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Against_Timarchus&oldid=948554729, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 1 April 2020, at 17:53. DicÈionar dexonline. Purchase a copy of this text (not necessarily the same edition) from Amazon.com Perseus under Philologic. Dass offenbar regelmäßige Überprüfungen der Anspruchsberechtigung durchgeführt wurden, erfahren wir aus einer Gerichtsrede (Aischines, Gegen Timarchos 104), wo berichtet wird, dass ein erblindeter alter Mann namens Arignotos seine Invalidenrente verlor, weil er bei einer solchen Überprüfung gefehlt hatte. our society? Aeschines with an English translation by Charles Darwin Adams, Ph.D. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1919. b to act as though bound [3], Modern scholars have criticised the lack of evidence that Aeschines put forward in Against Timarchus,[4] for instance by pointing out that he has no evidence that any of Timarchus' lovers ever paid him. The Constraints of Desire: The Anthropology of Sex and Gender in Ancient Greece. Aeschines praises the lawgiver who did not allow the crowning of a magistrate unless he has submitted an account of his activity and of the financial dealings involved.